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RiD No.: | 214 |
Birth | 1832 | Ipswich, Suffolk |
The Suffolk Baptism Index shows a Thomas Abbott was baptised on the 10th May 1831 with father Thomas (Iron Founder), mother Sarah. This now appears to be this Thomas's younger brother who died 5 days later on the 15th May. According to Family Search, this Thomas was born in 1832, but as yet I have not found a fixed date. Note his parents were married on the 24th April 1831, about 3 weeks before the first Thomas was born, but before this Thomas was born. | ||
Death | 16 September 1877 (age 45-46) | Union Workhouse, Ipswich |
Thomas's death certificate is shown above. The image is very feint, but shows he died in the Union Workhouse in Ipswich of "Heart disease and Asthma age 45. |
Spouse | Ellen TALBOT (1832?-aft1911) | |
Children | Susannah COOK-ABBOTT (1853-1855) | |
William Cook ABBOTT (1854-bef1911) | ||
John Cook ABBOTT (1856-1913) | ||
Arthur COOK-ABBOTT (1858?-1918) | ||
Eleanor Cook ABBOTT (1859- ) | ||
Walter Thomas Cook ABBOTT (1860-1929) | ||
Frederick Cook ABBOTT (1869- ) | ||
Susannah Kate Cook ABBOTT (1871- ) | ||
Clara Cook ABBOTT (1872-1884) | ||
Sarah COOK-ABBOTT (1875-1958) | ||
Marriage | 18 July 1852 (age 20-21) | Registery Office, Ipswich, Suffolk |
At marriage, age shown as "minor" i.e under 21. Shows Thomas's address as St Helens Road and therefore assumed to be No. 49. |
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Occupation | from 1851 to 1875 (age 19-44) | Iron Moulder |
According to the 1851 census, Thomas was a "Journeyman Iron Moulder" At his marriage in 1852, his job is given as "Moulder" and at the birth of Sarah in 1875, his job was again given as "Iron Moulder". His address is given as 49 St Helens Road.. |
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Address | between June 1854 and January 1856 | 1 George Place, Christchurch, St Saviour, Bermondsey, Surrey |
This Bermondsey address is shown on the birth certificate for Thomas ans Ellen's eldest son, William, but the family was back in Ipswich by the birth of John in 1856 | ||
Census (family) | 7 April 1861 (age 29-30) | |
69, Bloomfield Street, Ipswich, Suffolk Ellen's occupation is shown as Laundress |
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Census (family) | 2 April 1871 (age 39-40) | |
17, St Helens Street, Ipswich, Suffolk The census return shows William, John and Arthur as 'Lodgers' rather than children |
Thomas was born and brought up in Ipswich for the first 22 years of his life during which time he met and married Ellen and they had their first daughter, Susannah.
In 1854, when their second child, William, was born, they, or at least Ellen, were in Bermondsey. By 1856, when their third child John was born and christened, they were back in Ipswich, living at 7 St John Street, and they spent the rest of their lives in that town.
Further investigation is needed regarding Thomas and Ellen's movements between c1854 and 1856. Did they move from Ipswich to Bermondsey for two years, and if so for what reason, or where they simply visiting Bermondsey when William was born and never moved away from Ipswich at all?
No christening has yet been identified for William, whereas all of Thomas and Ellen's other children were christened in Ipswich, and it is interesting to note that William was back in London by the time he was 17 when he married Eleanor and spent the rest of his life there.
If it wasn't for the fact that I have William's birth certificate showing he is the child of Thomas and Ellen, I could almost believe that he was not related.
If anyone has any additional information, I would be pleased to hear from you.
The following information has been kindly supplied by Carol Wooliams, a great-great -granddaughter of Thomas and Ellen.
"Re Thomas Cook Abbott and Ellen Abbott, formerly Talbot.
The year before their marriage, Ellen Talbot appears in the census of 1851 to be an 18-year-old ‘feather dresser’ in a family of dyers and dressmakers, but in the census of 1861 as the wife of Thomas, she is a laundress.
At the time of his marriage, Thomas, an iron-moulder, lived at 49 St Helen’s Street. From this address he would have been able to see the castellated County Hall, town jail and courts. At one time the prison contained a treadmill, used as a means of punishment for prisoners. One prisoner appeared in 1860 on a charge of ‘deserting his family’ and received 21 days hard labour.
Thomas died on 16 September 1877, aged about 45, in the Union Workhouse in Ipswich. The cause of death was ‘Heart Disease and Asthma’. His wife Ellen seems to have lived into her late seventies."