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| RiD No.: | 215 |
| Birth | 1832 (approx.) | Ipswich, Suffolk |
| Ellen's birth date preceeds the start of BMD registrations (1837) and as yet a parish register entry for her Christening has not been identified, so her approximate date of birth has been taken fron census returns. | ||
| Census | 1841 (age 8-9) | |
| St Matthews Street, Ipswich The following is a transcript of the 1841 census return for John Talbot (snr) and his family. The original has not been examined and this may account for the apparent discrepancy in the ages/birth dates for John and Mary? John Talbot Male 35 1806 - Mary Talbot Female 35 1806 - Maryann Talbot Female 20 1821 - John Talbot Male 12 1829 - Ellen Talbot Female 9 1832 Suffolk, England Susanna Talbot Female 8 1833 Suffolk, England Paulina Talbot Female 6 1835 Suffolk, England Pamela Talbot Female 5 1836 Suffolk, England Levina Talbot Female 3 1838 Suffolk, England |
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| Census | 1851 (age 18-19) | |
| The following is a transcript of the 1851 census for John Talbot's family in
Crown Street, Ipswich. The original has not been examined. John Talbot Head Married Male 50 1801 Dyer Norwich, Norfolk, England Mary Talbot Wife Married Female 51 1800 - Norwich, Norfolk, England John Talbot Son Unmarried Male 21 1830 Dyer Norwich, Norfolk, England Ellen Talbot Daughter Unmarried Female 18 1833 Feather Dresser Ipswich, Suffolk, England Susannah Talbot Daughter Unmarried Female 17 1834 Dressmaker Ipswich, Suffolk, England Pamela Talbot Daughter Unmarried Female 15 1836 Shopmaid Ipswich, Suffolk, England Elvina Talbot Daughter Unmarried Female 12 1839 Scholar Ipswich, Suffolk, England William Talbot Son Unmarried Male 9 1842 Scholar Ipswich, Suffolk, England Frederic Rush Lodger Married Male 28 1823 Tailor Journeyman Ipswich, Suffolk, England Lucy Rush - Married Female 29 1822 - Ipswich, Suffolk, England |
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| Death | after 1911 (age 78-79) | |
| Ellens death date and location has not yet been identified. We know it is after 1911 because she appears in the census for that year. | ||
| Spouse | Thomas Cook ABBOT (1831-1877) | |
| Children | Susannah COOK-ABBOTT (1853-1855) | |
| William Cook ABBOTT (1854-bef1911) | ||
| John Cook ABBOTT (1856-1913) | ||
| Arthur COOK-ABBOTT (1858?-1918) | ||
| Eleanor Cook ABBOTT (1859- ) | ||
| Walter Thomas Cook ABBOTT (1860-1929) | ||
| Frederick Cook ABBOTT (1869- ) | ||
| Susannah Kate Cook ABBOTT (1871- ) | ||
| Clara Cook ABBOTT (1872-1884) | ||
| Sarah COOK-ABBOTT (1875-1958) | ||
| Marriage | 18 July 1852 (age 19-20) | Registery Office, Ipswich, Suffolk |
| At marriage, age shown as "minor" i.e under 21. Shows Thomas's address as St Helens Road and therefore assumed to be No. 49. |
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| Census (family) | 7 April 1861 (age 28-29) | |
| 69, Bloomfield Street, Ipswich, Suffolk Ellen's occupation is shown as Laundress |
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| Census (family) | 2 April 1871 (age 38-39) | |
| 17, St Helens Street, Ipswich, Suffolk The census return shows William, John and Arthur as 'Lodgers' rather than children |
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| Census | 3 April 1881 (age 48-49) | |
| 1881 census shows Ellen as a widow living at 12 Star Lane, Ipswich aged 47. Arthur, Thomas, Clara and Sarah all all still at home | ||
| Census | 1901 (age 68-69) | |
| I have not yet been able to find any entry for Ellen in the 1901 census | ||
| Census | 1911 (age 78-79) | |
| 47, Lower Brook Street, Ipswich, Suffolk Census shows an Ellen Cook Abbott aged 78 (Marital Status Widow- Occupation Old Aged Pensioner). Assumed this is the correct Ellen? |
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Ellen was born in Ipswich in about 1832 and married Thomas in July 1852 aged about 20.
Ellen's parents, John and Mary, were both born around 1801 and originally lived in Norwich, Norfolk, but moved to Ipswich around 1829/30. John was a Dyer and set up his own business in the town, but it seems John was a bit of an entrepreneur and expanded into other business ventures.
Sometime around 1850 the family started (or perhaps purchased) the Ipswich Soda Water Company, trading as Talbot and Co.
The following information has been kindly supplied by Carol Wooliams, a great-great -granddaughter of Thomas and Ellen.
"Re Thomas Cook Abbott and Ellen Abbott, formerly Talbot.
The year before their marriage, Ellen Talbot appears in the census of 1851 to be an 18-year-old ‘feather dresser’ in a family of dyers and dressmakers, but in the census of 1861 as the wife of Thomas, she is a laundress.
At the time of his marriage, Thomas, an iron-moulder, lived at 49 St Helen’s Street. From this address he would have been able to see the castellated County Hall, town jail and courts. At one time the prison contained a treadmill, used as a means of punishment for prisoners. One prisoner appeared in 1860 on a charge of ‘deserting his family’ and received 21 days hard labour.
Thomas died on 16 September 1877, aged about 45, in the Union Workhouse in Ipswich. The cause of death was ‘Heart Disease and Asthma’. His wife Ellen seems to have lived into her late seventies."